Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

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Postby The Ginger Cat » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:08 am

Rate Ep.7 "Can You Hear Me?".
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Postby date542 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:11 pm

was ok...had some genuinely creepy moments...but then it ran out of plot...2 aliens reminded me of space:1999 villains...dialogue for 14th century syria characters was too modern...i do not care about yaz..ryan or graham..whether thats due to poor acting..poor writing or both i dont know...jw continues to be awful...laughable that they had a therapy session at the end and a helpline number which i am tempted to ring as i am traumatised what some inept hacks have done to one of the most iconic shows in tv history
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Postby mr borusa » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:16 pm

So were those two aliens supposed to be eternals.

Not a bad episode but first 10 mins last last 10 were a load of nonsense which made it hard to get into the story
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Postby Scarlioni79 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:38 pm

I can’t say I hated it. However, I felt nothing in response to it. Perhaps that’s a much more worrying reaction. I hated the “mental state”/“mental health” line from the 14th century Syrian woman.....and it was downhill from there. Endless info dumping in the later part, so much so that they had to do that animated section in a vain attempt to stop boring everyone. A selection of dreams made the episode a little experimental, but it wasn’t good drama. Good visuals, perhaps. Lots of problems underneath that. It’s not often I post on here and I apologise for being so negative with the comments I’ve just made. I honestly can’t see how this series can be popular with a general audience. It’s terrible.

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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby Scarlioni79 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:40 pm

date542 wrote:was ok...had some genuinely creepy moments...but then it ran out of plot...2 aliens reminded me of space:1999 villains...


The bald one sounded like Mr Davenport from Rentaghost, if there are any of you here who remember him....
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Postby richt1963 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:41 pm

They really have learned nothing have they.

Mental Health issues rammed down our throats. Shoe horned into the beginning, middle and end all wrapped around a ridiculous episode where the Doctor (Not a god), defeats Two Gods with the help of her Magic Wand, Sorry, Sonic Screwdriver which was built from Scrap Metal in Sheffield!

Again looks very nice. Slightly dodgy CGI. But the story, oh the story, just awful preaching once again.

Will the show ever be just an adventure in time and space again?

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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby darnall42 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:33 pm

a over genourous 2 ,Yet more abysmal Who from Chib-Dull and Whittaker (she was awful in this episode and the cancer bit with Grahame was embarassing to watch) ,i want to watch who for escapist sci-fi not have mental health issues badly scripted as this weeks episode (perhaps chibs should have watched vincent and the doctor to see how a episode about mental issues should have been done instead of this borefest)
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Postby Zarius » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:48 pm

Thought the way Doc dealt with Graham's cancer scares was the "Kill The Moon" Clara moment of the whole series so far...I know The Doctor is very alien, but this was the first real instance of her being approached as a healer this era and she bottled it.

And was anyone reminded of Mark of the Rani at the end with the two Eternals trapped with the monster?

"this is the one thing we didn't want to happen" :shock:
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Postby Black Orchid » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:52 pm

A complete waste of time - The worst episode since In the Forest of the Night.

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Postby Nosey Neighbour » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:39 pm

date542 wrote:was ok...had some genuinely creepy moments...but then it ran out of plot...2 aliens reminded me of space:1999 villains...dialogue for 14th century syria characters was too modern...i do not care about yaz..ryan or graham..whether thats due to poor acting..poor writing or both i dont know...jw continues to be awful...laughable that they had a therapy session at the end and a helpline number which i am tempted to ring as i am traumatised what some inept hacks have done to one of the most iconic shows in tv history


Same here and their lair looked eerily series 2 Space 1999 but fortunately this episode of Doctor Who was much better than that sadly largely sub standard Gerry Anderson fayre. I really enjoyed this and I expect a few kids will be having nightmares having seen it.
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby lepter » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:54 pm

A poor 3.
First 20 minutes were boring.....next 20ish was slightly more entertaining but totally ruined by the last 10 minutes of tacked on lecturing on mental health issues. It would have got a 2 if it wernt for the better performance of the bald bloke. Nice mention of the guardians and the toymakers.

How did they jump from appello with the northern England accented Syrians to getting trapped inside the ball? It just happened.

This just isnt dr who.

I fear for what they are going to do with the cybermen.
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Postby cloudy day » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:18 am

I see they tried to give Yaz some depth, but I don't feel like I was given enough information to get anything out of it. Ditto with Ryan. The only really fleshed-out character there is Graham.

And geez, the Doctor's reaction to poor Graham's confidence to her about his fears of cancer were awfully unDoctorlike, IMHO. Although maybe Peter Capaldi could have pulled that reaction off, since that's kind of how his Doctor was characterized. Isn't this female Doctor supposed to be more empathetic or something?
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby professor_who » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:43 am

I think... sorry to go against the grain here... I liked it.

not the most amazing episode of all time, a bit thin on plot but I for one didnt mind the message and the way it was told this week. because it wasnt a criticism of the world or the audience I guess.

Interestingly enough Yaz had her issues in high school, Graham had his fears and for a second it looked like we were going to get a glimpse into something about the doctor (disappointing that dream didnt last a touch longer) but RYAN - it was about his friend. Not Ryan. Mr Dysprexia who is highly skilled at video games. so freaking boring they couldnt be bothered to create back story for him so it fell to his friend. I liked the stuff with Yaz. Terribly under written over the two seasons, I think there could be more there but the writing has been pretty freaking crap.

dont mind an episode like this. I felt like s11 all episodes were the same basically. this season has had more variety. But it also had some true sh*te, ie last week's episode.
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby professor_who » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:46 am

lepter wrote:A poor 3.
First 20 minutes were boring.....next 20ish was slightly more entertaining but totally ruined by the last 10 minutes of tacked on lecturing on mental health issues. It would have got a 2 if it wernt for the better performance of the bald bloke. Nice mention of the guardians and the toymakers.

How did they jump from appello with the northern England accented Syrians to getting trapped inside the ball? It just happened.

This just isnt dr who.

I fear for what they are going to do with the cybermen.


am i the only one presuming they will be the shimmering things from Spyfall controlled by the master because neither of those things has been done before?
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby johnshoo » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:25 am

Positives: I did just criticize Chibnall's Who for not going out of the series' comfort zone and this was certainly something different from the norm.

Negatives: It was a pile of gobbledygook.

For beings that were supposedly on the level of the Guardians and the Eternals, these two sure were defeated easily. Guess that's what happens when you have an episode about battling god-like entities, but you have to wrap it up in the standard 45-minute runtime.

There were some genuinely interesting ideas in there. I like that all three companions got a little time and character development, but it seems to have come at the cost of developing the plot because it was almost as paper-thin as "Fugitive of the Judoon" and this time it didn't have a huge plot twist to distract from it.

I know some people really seem to hate "Orphan 55", but for me, this was the easily weakest episode of the season thus far. I'm feeling a light to decent 4.
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Postby lordnellie » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:28 am

Enjoyed most of that. Story bounced across time and space quite nicely and the villains were good albeit too easily defeated...

Mr. Chibnall is making a real hash of writing The Doctor though... The part where Graham opened up was handled really, really badly. Whatever happened to 'never cowardly or cruel' eh?
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby Servorobot » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:48 am

Much better than last week.

At least there was some scares to frighten the wee ones and a bit of a nod to previous incarnations.

The last 10 minutes were a bit of an anti climax, but we did get some character development for Yaz and the Doctor was useless for Graham, but then how many times have we been in that situation and had no idea what to say? Don’t think we’d make stupid remarks though, but I felt she said how we all feel in those situations.

The Eternals were good, but easily defeated, as has been noted.

Judging by some of the comments I expected some preachy speech at the end about mental health, but apart from the Aleppo history lesson there was bugger all really.

I gave it a pass, 6/10.
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Postby Miss Cathcart » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:51 am

I liked it, especially the dark tone. The resolution was too quick and easy but at least they didn't stray into the Doctor was a god just like them, only more powerful, line. I enjoyed Graham and Yaz's vignettes but agree that Ryan's was a bit meh and should have been about him and not his friend. Didn't find the mental health thing preachy at all; I thought it was sensitively and subtly done, for a change.
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Postby A Disused Yeti » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:33 am

The Doctor may know Graham is a fixed point in time and whatever happens to him, has to happen. Maybe the Doctor already healed him and is waiting to Xmas to tell him. I just don't know if someone can write it that harsh without a reason. Oh, an enemy that sticks a wet finger in your ear? FO
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Re: Rate "Can You Hear Me?"

Postby LizR » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:26 am

Definitely had some pluses. The main idea was quite good, if reminiscent of lots of other stories (A Nightmare on Elm Street, for example) - putting in some character stuff was good, even if it didn't really work too well, given the lack of character development to date made it hard to care about them (well, apart from Graham, as usual).

Given that two of my favourite episodes from the Moffat era were Amy's choice and Last Christmas, both of which featured the characters not knowing what was real, I guess this was a bit of a pale imitation, even if it looked good. As usual the historical anachronisms grated, modern characters in 1380 style dress don't really cut it. Yes, I know they speak English, but they don't also have to sound like it's 21st century English. Shouldn't they all be talking about gods and devils and suchlike? After all, it's going to be about 5 centuries before the discovery of the subconscious...

Still, for a while there was a feeling that there was a genuine threat, at least until the Doctor played her get out of jail card and wrapped things up in a similarly casual way to the ending of Human Nature/Family of Blood. Trapping the baddies along with some sort of creature that didn't really exist, or maybe did, but in any case was very nasty, presumably for eternity - very much in the same vein as HN/FoB, not to mention Dante's Inferno. (At least we didn't get the "Wrath of the Time Lord" line.)

I assume the title refers to the trapped woman trying to be heard...? And I didn't follow why the Doctor decided to pop off to 1380. Or how she managed to get the much overused sonic into her hand so easily to escape. Um - maybe a 5, it did at least feel as though they were trying to get kids back behind the sofa.
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