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Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby The Ginger Cat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:21 pm

Rate Ep.10 “The Timeless Children” (Part 2).
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Postby linalmeemow » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:03 pm

Well that's the history of the show permanently bollocksed up then...
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby robbo13 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:05 pm

Broke the habit of the last two seasons and gave it a point for a good performance by the master. Wasted in the drivel that was the rest of it though. Chibnall well and truly dropped his pants and shat all over the history of the show there.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Scarlioni79 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:10 pm

Happy for all those who liked this. For me, though, it was awful. 0/10.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby 'teleportNOW!' » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:10 pm

overblown rubbish!

Fundamentally, simply 'totally rewriting Doctor Who continuity' is not a good story.
It's only of meta-interest to 'Doctor Who fans'.
People became Doctor Who fans in the first place because it had good stories, well told.

(And anyways - why would 'the Doctor remembering loads of stuff' blow up the Matrix? The Matrix has infinitely more stuff in it already than the Doctor's memories!)

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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Shaving Foamasi » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 pm

Got bored by the endless exposition by the Master.

Contrary to others I didn't hear anything that shat on the history of the show - what I heard was a rewrite of the Cartmel Masterplan, which was never that interesting to begin with.

Didn't much care what happened to anyone as nobody but the Master got any screentime.

Gave it 5 as blowing everything up seemed to be the kindest thing to do...
You mean you believed the Doctor would never regenerate into a woman?
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Braxiatel » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pm

Once again, I say Lorraine Heggessey made a grave mistake 16 years ago signing off on reviving the show. And this is where we are: Mr. Open Air took a open sh*t.

Calling it now for the Who Cares of the Daleks: 2.71M. Sorry Charlotte but if you want to go to the CW, resign if you like poor ratings
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby darnall42 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pm

a genorous 5/10 Dull beyond belief ,i was bored and i'm a lifelong fan , heaven knows what the ordinary viewing public thought of that . all the matrix continuity spouting scenes were dull in what should have been an exciting cybermen invading galifrey story,but i gave it a 5 as whittaker wasnt as bad as normal (even tosin was'nt too bad this week ;) ) but thank god we have another 18 month gap before another whittaker series
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby richt1963 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:39 pm

I gave it a 2/10.

Sorry but the shows called Doctor Who not The Master isn’t it?

She had virtually nothing to do most of the episode.

The problem was solved by her thinking her way out of it.

Why did The Master and the CyberTimeLords not just kill the two of them at the end.

Once again the Cybermen became stooges of at first The Lone Cyberman and then The Master.

The CyberTimeLords looked ridiculous.

I was bored at least three times during the episode.

The only saving grace was Doctor Jo who again acted Jodie off the screen. Doctor Jo’s TARDIS interior was once again beautiful. I really wish we had been left with Doctor Jo going forward as she’s got the acting chops to carry the role.

Just a mess of an episode. Even the expensive visuals couldn’t really save it in the end.

Eighteen months - bar the ‘Special’ - certainly isn’t to long to wait for this confused mess.
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Postby Zarius » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:43 pm

Pretty simple story really. Cyber-Lords looked hilarious, the concept is interesting, but they're really just drones. Ashad boiled down to nothing (were they flogging merchandise with Ashad's compressed form or something? At one point I was expecting the Teleshopping information to come up on screen)

I liked how they really teased Jodie was going to leave with this one, only for an old-school trope to emerge in one of the disposable human cast making the grand sacrifice instead.

Boy were the Cybermen lousy shots.

Does Chibnall 'ship Graham and Yaz? Jail bait Bradley.

The new origin for The Doctor isn't too bad, the Brendan stuff, a captivating part of the first instalment, is dismissed pretty sharply here as meaning very little. Shame.

Ruth remains an enigma..as does most of The Doctor's past in 'The division'.

7/10...good action, Dawhan steals the whole story, but too much continuity porn, exposition, and wasted potential. Probably not going to hold interest on repeated viewing unless you're watching a reaction channel
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Rubbernecking » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:04 pm

https://twitter.com/lalalogay/status/12 ... 09856?s=09

Delgado appeared in same shot as Jodie!

The last fifteen minutes seemed sloppier. But as finales go, I was more satisfied with this one than Capaldi or Smith finales. Obviously didn't reach the survival Horror of the last episode. But a better ending than that Battle of Roskhaetc.
Not the greatest ending to a series (Donna) but coming back for more next time.
Now that finales can be done, hopefully encouraged to build greater series.

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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby lepter » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:36 pm

Well...

...that tried to be different but just kills the whole history of the show...and the canon, leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Were do I start? The doctor is no longer just a runaway bored time lord but a freakish alien experimented on to give the regeneration gene to create the timelord race. Didnt explain anything about rassilon, omega....but left us basically an alien with unlimited regenerations. The doctor was never more than just another timelord throughout the shows 58 years. Why did the timelords give the doctor another regeneration cycle to the mat Smith doctor? Why bother when he is immortal?

Jodie was really awful. Cringeworthy.
The master was nothing but constantly overacting with far too much screen time.
Cybermen were totally misused again....they were just acting like robots again...but literally this time.
Cybertimelords? Really? How do you bring back a dead timelord back to life in a cyberman suit? If they can regenerate...they were not dead.
Lone cyberman was totally wasted.
Galifrey is literally totally destroyed and gone. Great job chibs.

What was the point of the ruth doctor? I really dont know...and the division/Brendan thing? What was the point? Jidoon managed to get inside the tardis...oh...I could just go on and on.
After the last 2 episodes set up a great story, this just blew it up.

Was massively disappointed in this episode.

My first ever 0 I've voted. I cannot think of one good point.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Shaving Foamasi » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:33 pm

To be fair to Chibnall, he has at least tried to create further mystery around the Doctor by putting both the character and the viewer in a position where neither knows her origin and also what happened in her other lives. First time there's been that level of mystery about the character since 1969.

Bold step to take. It was unfortunate that most of this was delivered through clunky extensive exposition by the Master and I am yet to be convinced of the concept.

I dont buy this shat on the show's history stuff. The show has changed its mind on so many things over the past 57 years...
You mean you believed the Doctor would never regenerate into a woman?
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby 'teleportNOW!' » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:39 pm

The Master acted like he was on coke.

The cyber-timelords' costumes looked like they were designed by someone on coke.

The lead cyberman sniffing at Yaz and Graham inside their cybersuits and not twigging there were humans inside was absutd.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby Black Orchid » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:42 pm

Pretty underwhelming stuff and no explanation was given as to why the Doctor traced seven human lifesigns in the settlement (in the first episode) but only six were shown on screen - what happened to the seventh human?
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby JPS » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:16 am

Can I just say a massive thankyou to Chibnall for totally killing off my favourite programme. You have ruined a once beautiful franchise. I have done with Dr Who. Thank you so much. RIP
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby shuzbot » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:46 am

I quite liked it. There were a few overblown moments tonally, but it was entertaining enough.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby A Disused Yeti » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:00 am

All that hard work from past actors to create 50 unforgettable years. Not a bad episode from most of the 60's through the 70s. All just to be sh*t on? How can Chibnall show his face at a convention ever again.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby johnshoo » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:20 am

Okay.... well, then.

Honestly, it wasn't as bad as I had expected. Chibnall didn't make humans the first Time Lords, thank goodness.

The story was pretty simple. Companions run around and kill Cybermen while the Doctor gets exposition dumped on her by the Master.

Sacha Dhawan was pretty good again, even though he's kind of playing the Master as if he's the Joker. Right now I'd say he's much better than RTD era Simm and I prefer his Master over Missy.

Ryan got to play hero a little bit... he had more to do than Graham and Yasmin, at least. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Once again, the modern series shows they can make a great-looking TARDIS interior that updates the classic design... then they go right back to the fugly modern design.

Okay, the negatives:

Old guy coming in at the end to sacrifice himself for the Doctor... well, that was very convenient.

By the way, how the heck did the Master blow up Gallifrey and kill all the Time Lords? I don't expect an explanation, but it's a pretty big ask as far as suspension of disbelief goes.

As other have pointed out, the Cyber-Time Lords looked ridiculous.

I have no idea if "the fam" is coming back (I'd assume so?), but if this was their goodbye, it was weak. They barely had anything to do and other than a brief scene between Graham and Yasmin, barely had any scenes together.

As much as Ashad was built up as a baddie, he turned out to be a complete non-factor and killed by the Master on a whim.

Finally, the big "nothing will ever be the same again" timeless child reveal: They went with the obvious, possibly most continuity-breaking answer and said that it was the Doctor's pre-Hartnell incarnations.

"Oh, but Brain of Morbius..." I can hear you say. Sure, they intended the faces in Brain of Morbius to be pre-Hartnell. But then they went on with forty years of continuity that firmly placed Hartnell as the first Doctor.

Also, it confirmed my worst fear that Chibnall either forgot that the TARDIS got stuck as a police box during Unearthly Child or deliberately chose to retcon it for some ungodly reason.

Look, I don't like the idea of pre-Hartnell Doctors. Does it "break" the show? I dunno. Doctor Who has always played fast and loose with its continuity. (What's the Doctor's real age again?) What I do know is that this feels like a poor attempt to try and make the Doctor "mysterious" again ala the Cartmel masterplan. I just think it's amusing that Chibnall has basically become Nu Who JNT.
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Re: Rate “The Timeless Children” (Part 2)

Postby A Disused Yeti » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:17 am

If the Doctor isn't from Gallifrey, why does she/he have 2 hearts?
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