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THE DAVROS DILEMMA: One Life or Millions?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:02 pm
by Cygnus Prime

"Listen, if someone who knew the future pointed out a child to you and told you that that child would grow up totally evil, to be a ruthless dictator who would destroy millions of lives, could you then kill that child?"

"We're talking about the Daleks, the most evil creatures ever invented, you must destroy them!"


When saving one life kills millions...

New Who revived an interesting point first made in GENESIS OF THE DALEKS when young Davros was stranded in a (very bizarre) minefield, with only the Doctor able to save him.

But did the story have the correct resolution?

At the end of the day, and knowing the future as he does, should the Doctor, in fact, leave Davros - or, indeed, any dictator from our very real-life history - to their fate, if saving them from it condemns millions of others to untold suffering and lost lives?



See also.....

Rate "The Magician's Apprentice" & "The Witch's Familiar":



Rate "Genesis of the Daleks":



Re: THE DAVROS DILEMMA: One Life or Millions?

PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:29 pm
by Cygnus Prime
Moffat's resolution to the dilemma:


YOUNG DAVROS: Help me! You can't leave me, you promised. You said I had a chance.

(The Tardis materialises behind him.)

YOUNG DAVROS: Who are you? I don't get it. How did you get there?

DOCTOR: From the future.

YOUNG DAVROS: Are you going to save me?

DOCTOR: I'm going to save my friend the only way I can. Exterminate!

(He blasts all the hand mines to oblivion.)

DOCTOR: Come on, I'll take you home.

YOUNG DAVROS: Which side are you on? Are you the enemy?

DOCTOR: I'm not sure that any of that matters, friends, enemies. So long as there's mercy. Always mercy.

(The Doctor holds out his hand. The boy Davros takes it and they walk away together.)


"So long as there's mercy. Always mercy."



"You should have left us there...

"The whole of history could change.

"No one should have that much power..."

"I've done this sort of thing before. In small ways. Saved some little people. But never someone as important as you. Oh, I'm good!"

"And there's no one to stop you?"


In which the well meaning Doctor crossed the line - and took it upon himself to rescue someone who really shouldn't have been - and wasn't meant to be...

Is it equally possible, therefore, that the Daleks were never actually meant to happen?

That young Davros, like Adelaide, was actually meant to perish in the minefield that day. A "fixed point in time"?

Until a well-meaning, but historically interfering Doctor came along? :?

Did the Doctor - and the Doctor alone - cause the creation of the Daleks through his alteration of established history?


Or is this just overthinking things?


Re: THE DAVROS DILEMMA: One Life or Millions?

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 8:24 am
by LizR
It (partly) depends on how time and time travel work. Is it definite that Davros will turn out the way he does? Why can't the Doctor influence him to be more humane, as he tried to do with Kazran Sardick?