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Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:16 pm
by Deleted User 3183
I'm appalled at the title.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:11 pm
by Kajaboy
The Co=Ordinator wrote:I'm appalled at the title.


I felt a bit like that about DWM's recent "Trial of JNT" article but this is far worse.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:17 am
by Mike Nuttall
The Co=Ordinator wrote:I'm appalled at the title.


It's a horrible title and hints at a very unfortunate tone.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:31 am
by bingo99
I thought it wasn't going to be scandalous and Ian Levine had got it all wrong?

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:51 am
by Mike Nuttall
The title suggests it's nothing more than a cynical money-making exercise to me.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:07 am
by RANTING MANIAC
already pre-ordered. :D

do you want the truth chaps, or not? personally i do. besides did you read the product description? it describes an even-handed, thorough account that presents the truth as the writer found it.

true, the title is a maketing one, but don't let that make you think it's a one-sided, spiteful book. i'm certain it's not!

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:51 am
by Richard Bignell
Mike Nuttall wrote:The title suggests it's nothing more than a cynical money-making exercise to me.

Knowing Richard (and having helped him with aspects of the book), I think it'll be anything but. He's put a huge amount of effort into researching John's life and I've every faith that it'll be a very fair and balanced look at his career.

There's no getting away though from the fact that John was a *very* colourful character and he could be both wonderfully charming and murderously arrogant when he wanted to be. I certainly wouldn't be interested in reading a biography that sanitised his life.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:52 am
by RANTING MANIAC
Thanks for saying that Mr Bignell.

I too have more faith in Richard Marson, and so should all of you :D

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:44 pm
by Mike Nuttall
RANTING MANIAC wrote:already pre-ordered. :D

do you want the truth chaps, or not? personally i do. besides did you read the product description? it describes an even-handed, thorough account that presents the truth as the writer found it.

true, the title is a maketing one, but don't let that make you think it's a one-sided, spiteful book. i'm certain it's not!


What makes you think that any of us are entitled to know "the truth" about John or anyone else? People are entitled to a private life and not to have their privacy invaded by someone wanting to make a fast buck.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:50 pm
by Mike Nuttall
Richard Bignell wrote:
Mike Nuttall wrote:The title suggests it's nothing more than a cynical money-making exercise to me.

Knowing Richard (and having helped him with aspects of the book), I think it'll be anything but. He's put a huge amount of effort into researching John's life and I've every faith that it'll be a very fair and balanced look at his career.

There's no getting away though from the fact that John was a *very* colourful character and he could be both wonderfully charming and murderously arrogant when he wanted to be. I certainly wouldn't be interested in reading a biography that sanitised his life.


I know what John was like, I met him enough times. Does the book go into his private life, including his love/sex life?

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:12 pm
by ianj
Ooooooo it's like Peyton Place!
.....that Schreiber coffee table took a real pounding........(!)

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:39 pm
by Deleted User 3156
Bad title.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:51 pm
by RANTING MANIAC
What makes you think that any of us are entitled to know "the truth" about John or anyone else?


Well, what do you define a biography as??
if it's not libellous, and people involved are willing to talk, then yes, print it and let's read it.

just remember, it seems that JNT had difficulty himself, separating his private life from his work. so to tell one story is to tell the other. without doing so will prevent a full understanding of Dr Who in the 1980's. :D

anyway Mike, and Rob, got your order in yet? ;)

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:21 am
by Deleted User 3156
Maybe someone should write a book about him.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:27 am
by Deleted User 3156
RANTING MANIAC wrote:
What makes you think that any of us are entitled to know "the truth" about John or anyone else?


Well, what do you define a biography as??
if it's not libellous, and people involved are willing to talk, then yes, print it and let's read it.

just remember, it seems that JNT had difficulty himself, separating his private life from his work. so to tell one story is to tell the other. without doing so will prevent a full understanding of Dr Who in the 1980's. :D

anyway Mike, and Rob, got your order in yet? ;)


I can't wait to read the book written about Ian Levine when he kicks the bucket ;)

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:41 am
by Dave Ross
bingo99 wrote:I thought it wasn't going to be scandalous and Ian Levine had got it all wrong?


Ian Levine isn't exactly the tastiest corn on the cob.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:57 am
by Deleted User 3183
RANTING MANIAC wrote:Well, what do you define a biography as??
if it's not libellous, and people involved are willing to talk, then yes, print it and let's read it.


You can't libel the dead.

That's why ITV are doing the Jimmy Savile hatchet job soon.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:47 am
by Mike Nuttall
The Co=Ordinator wrote:
RANTING MANIAC wrote:Well, what do you define a biography as??
if it's not libellous, and people involved are willing to talk, then yes, print it and let's read it.


You can't libel the dead.

That's why ITV are doing the Jimmy Savile hatchet job soon.


Yes, any scurrilous rumour or bare-faced lie can be presented as fact risk-free once someone is dead.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:59 am
by ianj
I wont be watching it.

Re: THE LIFE AND SCANDALOUS TIMES OF J.N.T.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:42 pm
by The Nimon
Very poor title but i'll give the book a go. Personlly i'd rather see his DWM memoirs relased as a book