Favourite Capaldi Stories

Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby iank » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:07 am

It's a genuinely pitiful selection, let's face it.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Joseph » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:00 pm

Into the Dalek. Great story, well directed, love Journey Blue and Capaldi was actually given some decent material and shone as a result. Clara was unbearably smug and I hated the "Am I a good man bullsh*t" but other than that it was great.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby DrWhat » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:40 pm

I actually really enjoyed Kill the Moon. I think that was New Who at its best. It was genuinely scary in parts and it forced you to think in a way that most television today doesn't.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:34 am

DrWhat wrote:I actually really enjoyed Kill the Moon. I think that was New Who at its best. It was genuinely scary in parts and it forced you to think in a way that most television today doesn't.

It made me think "well they've got that wrong" about 10 times. Given that the basic idea came from a story Jack Williamson wrote in the 1930s (if I remember correctly) I was surprised that they hadn't actually bothered to look up any of the relevant science. Didn't anyone at any point stop to think, let's check some basic facts? Just so we don't look like complete prats?

All that is aside from the idea of the Moon being a large egg. I can suspend my disbelief for THAT, but not when they add so many gratuitous mistakes on top of that basic premise. Why didn't they remember the first rule of making a TV show or movie with a fantastic premise (in the "fantasy" sense) - play everything else straight, which in this case means get it right. If Harry Potter can make me believe in magic, Who should be able to make me believe in a Moon egg - it isn't rocket science.

(Well OK in this case it is, but it's all easily available online. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass :roll: )
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Bowtiesarecool » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:20 pm

I've actually been enjoying Series 9 so far.

Mind you we haven't seen the final yet! :lol:
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Slint4 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:25 am

Listen - very good

Last Christmas - good
Mummy on the Orient Express
Flatline
Time Heist

Magician's Apprentice - maybe but need to watch again
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Morbius » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:49 pm

3. Sleep No More
2. Flatline
1. Mummy on the Orient Express
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Tobias Vaughan » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:49 pm

the last 4 episodes have been by far his best long may it cntinue
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby DrWhat » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:08 am

LizR wrote:
DrWhat wrote:I actually really enjoyed Kill the Moon. I think that was New Who at its best. It was genuinely scary in parts and it forced you to think in a way that most television today doesn't.

It made me think "well they've got that wrong" about 10 times. Given that the basic idea came from a story Jack Williamson wrote in the 1930s (if I remember correctly) I was surprised that they hadn't actually bothered to look up any of the relevant science. Didn't anyone at any point stop to think, let's check some basic facts? Just so we don't look like complete prats?

All that is aside from the idea of the Moon being a large egg. I can suspend my disbelief for THAT, but not when they add so many gratuitous mistakes on top of that basic premise. Why didn't they remember the first rule of making a TV show or movie with a fantastic premise (in the "fantasy" sense) - play everything else straight, which in this case means get it right. If Harry Potter can make me believe in magic, Who should be able to make me believe in a Moon egg - it isn't rocket science.

(Well OK in this case it is, but it's all easily available online. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass :roll: )


Doctor Who is and always has been a sci-fi/fantasy show and I found its exploration of the vexed issues around 'choice' to be rather brilliant. Even during Bidmead's tenure I never looked to Doctor Who for scientific realism.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Marco's Voice » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:35 pm

Capaldi's first two seasons have both been of a very high quality. Here are my favourites:

'Deep Breath' - genuinely creepy and a good introduction to the Twelfth Doctor.
'Into the Dalek' - reminds me of aspects of 'Carnival of Monsters' with clamouring about, miniaturised , inside a machine.
'Mummy on the Orient Express' - horror overtones.
'Dark Water/Death in Heaven' - Missy, the Cybermen, earth invasion, it's got the lot!
'The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar' - Missy, the Daleks, Davros, a Dalek city on Skaro, a wonderfully nostalgic tale.

Capaldi already has more classic stories in his first two seasons than Matt Smith had in his entire tenure!
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:34 pm

DrWhat wrote:
LizR wrote:
DrWhat wrote:I actually really enjoyed Kill the Moon. I think that was New Who at its best. It was genuinely scary in parts and it forced you to think in a way that most television today doesn't.

It made me think "well they've got that wrong" about 10 times. Given that the basic idea came from a story Jack Williamson wrote in the 1930s (if I remember correctly) I was surprised that they hadn't actually bothered to look up any of the relevant science. Didn't anyone at any point stop to think, let's check some basic facts? Just so we don't look like complete prats?

All that is aside from the idea of the Moon being a large egg. I can suspend my disbelief for THAT, but not when they add so many gratuitous mistakes on top of that basic premise. Why didn't they remember the first rule of making a TV show or movie with a fantastic premise (in the "fantasy" sense) - play everything else straight, which in this case means get it right. If Harry Potter can make me believe in magic, Who should be able to make me believe in a Moon egg - it isn't rocket science.

(Well OK in this case it is, but it's all easily available online. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass :roll: )


Doctor Who is and always has been a sci-fi/fantasy show and I found its exploration of the vexed issues around 'choice' to be rather brilliant. Even during Bidmead's tenure I never looked to Doctor Who for scientific realism.

I don't think anyone does. The rule is self-consistency (e.g. drowned babies vs Moon bird's life), plus if you're going to try for realism get it right, or at least not wildly, illogically wrong (as with the Moon magically increasing in mass for no reason)
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Tobias Vaughan » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:45 am

Marco's Voice wrote:Capaldi's first two seasons have both been of a very high quality. Here are my favourites:

'Deep Breath' - genuinely creepy and a good introduction to the Twelfth Doctor.
'Into the Dalek' - reminds me of aspects of 'Carnival of Monsters' with clamouring about, miniaturised , inside a machine.
'Mummy on the Orient Express' - horror overtones.
'Dark Water/Death in Heaven' - Missy, the Cybermen, earth invasion, it's got the lot!
'The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar' - Missy, the Daleks, Davros, a Dalek city on Skaro, a wonderfully nostalgic tale.

Capaldi already has more classic stories in his first two seasons than Matt Smith had in his entire tenure!
couldn't disagree with you more personally, Matt Smith sets Capaldi on fire lets him cook for a bit then thrws out his perfomance as the Doctor and pisses all over him. enjoyed all the stories you list though but deep breath was poor, now if you want to see a debut doc classic wait until the 11th hour...
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Allons-y » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:19 am

Tobias Vaughan wrote:
Marco's Voice wrote:Capaldi's first two seasons have both been of a very high quality. Here are my favourites:

'Deep Breath' - genuinely creepy and a good introduction to the Twelfth Doctor.
'Into the Dalek' - reminds me of aspects of 'Carnival of Monsters' with clamouring about, miniaturised , inside a machine.
'Mummy on the Orient Express' - horror overtones.
'Dark Water/Death in Heaven' - Missy, the Cybermen, earth invasion, it's got the lot!
'The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar' - Missy, the Daleks, Davros, a Dalek city on Skaro, a wonderfully nostalgic tale.

Capaldi already has more classic stories in his first two seasons than Matt Smith had in his entire tenure!
couldn't disagree with you more personally, Matt Smith sets Capaldi on fire lets him cook for a bit then thrws out his perfomance as the Doctor and pisses all over him. enjoyed all the stories you list though but deep breath was poor, now if you want to see a debut doc classic wait until the 11th hour...

None of the stories in Series 8 were really my cup of tea, I did really like The Magician's Nephew/The Witch's Familiar and Capaldi is great! Matt Smith never really "got" the Doctor, he improved as he went along but never quite felt right, Capladi on the other hand nailed it right off the bat!
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:06 am

Allons-y wrote:None of the stories in Series 8 were really my cup of tea, I did really like The Magician's Nephew/The Witch's Familiar and Capaldi is great! Matt Smith never really "got" the Doctor, he improved as he went along but never quite felt right, Capladi on the other hand nailed it right off the bat!

You mean when I saw The Eleventh Hour and said "thank god, the Doctor's back at last!" I was really being mind-controlled by the David Tenant character from Jessica Jones?
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Allons-y » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:00 pm

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Allons-y wrote:None of the stories in Series 8 were really my cup of tea, I did really like The Magician's Nephew/The Witch's Familiar and Capaldi is great! Matt Smith never really "got" the Doctor, he improved as he went along but never quite felt right, Capladi on the other hand nailed it right off the bat!

You mean when I saw The Eleventh Hour and said "thank god, the Doctor's back at last!" I was really being mind-controlled by the David Tenant character from Jessica Jones?

Maybe so, but it would seem odd of Tennant to turn you against him, haha.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:49 pm

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Allons-y wrote:None of the stories in Series 8 were really my cup of tea, I did really like The Magician's Nephew/The Witch's Familiar and Capaldi is great! Matt Smith never really "got" the Doctor, he improved as he went along but never quite felt right, Capladi on the other hand nailed it right off the bat!

You mean when I saw The Eleventh Hour and said "thank god, the Doctor's back at last!" I was really being mind-controlled by the David Tenant character from Jessica Jones?

Maybe so, but it would seem odd of Tennant to turn you against him, haha.

Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of any other rational explanation, except that Matt WAS the Doctor, while his predecessor... well, let's not speak ill of the regenerated. :twisted:
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby Allons-y » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:22 am

LizR wrote:
Allons-y wrote:
LizR wrote:
Allons-y wrote:None of the stories in Series 8 were really my cup of tea, I did really like The Magician's Nephew/The Witch's Familiar and Capaldi is great! Matt Smith never really "got" the Doctor, he improved as he went along but never quite felt right, Capladi on the other hand nailed it right off the bat!

You mean when I saw The Eleventh Hour and said "thank god, the Doctor's back at last!" I was really being mind-controlled by the David Tenant character from Jessica Jones?

Maybe so, but it would seem odd of Tennant to turn you against him, haha.

Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of any other rational explanation, except that Matt WAS the Doctor, while his predecessor... well, let's not speak ill of the regenerated. :twisted:

hahaha. Afraid Matt never really did it for me, he felt the least like the Doctor since McCoy.
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:20 am

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LizR wrote:Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of any other rational explanation, except that Matt WAS the Doctor, while his predecessor... well, let's not speak ill of the regenerated. :twisted:

hahaha. Afraid Matt never really did it for me, he felt the least like the Doctor since McCoy.

I know that's your opinion (wrong though it is). I was just winding you up. :twisted:
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby chap with wings » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:54 am

LizR wrote:
Allons-y wrote:
LizR wrote:Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of any other rational explanation, except that Matt WAS the Doctor, while his predecessor... well, let's not speak ill of the regenerated. :twisted:

hahaha. Afraid Matt never really did it for me, he felt the least like the Doctor since McCoy.

I know that's your opinion (wrong though it is). I was just winding you up. :twisted:


on this Allons-y and I agree - Smith was awful. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Favourite Capaldi Stories

Postby LizR » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:32 am

chap with wings wrote:
LizR wrote:
Allons-y wrote:
LizR wrote:Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of any other rational explanation, except that Matt WAS the Doctor, while his predecessor... well, let's not speak ill of the regenerated. :twisted:

hahaha. Afraid Matt never really did it for me, he felt the least like the Doctor since McCoy.

I know that's your opinion (wrong though it is). I was just winding you up. :twisted:


on this Allons-y and I agree - Smith was awful. :lol: :lol:

Two people I respect being wrong doesn't make a right. Smith got how to be alien, ageless and mysterious. Unfortunately the scripts didn't.

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