Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016"

Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby LizR » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:42 am

iank wrote:Chibnall? Really? That hack is the Beeb's preferred replacement?

Jesus, just put this show out of my misery. :cry:

Well after watching a few eps of Broadchurch.... yes. The "Well, we know it wasn't person X whodunnit (or if it is, that won't be revealed until later in a "shocking" twist like the one in Agatha Christie's first whodunnit) because it's their turn to be a suspect this week, but since we still have 5 episodes to go, next week we'll be moving on to person Y..." school of writing :roll:

Why not just watch something good, like "The Bridge" ?
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Postby Allons-y » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:39 am

LizR wrote:
iank wrote:Chibnall? Really? That hack is the Beeb's preferred replacement?

Jesus, just put this show out of my misery. :cry:

Well after watching a few eps of Broadchurch.... yes. The "Well, we know it wasn't person X whodunnit (or if it is, that won't be revealed until later in a "shocking" twist like the one in Agatha Christie's first whodunnit) because it's their turn to be a suspect this week, but since we still have 5 episodes to go, next week we'll be moving on to person Y..." school of writing :roll:

Why not just watch something good, like "The Bridge" ?

I gave up on Broadchurch after one episode, pretty terrible stuff.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby iank » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:15 am

I watched about half the first series and gave up for precisely the reasons Liz stated. Quickly got very boring.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby Allons-y » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:19 am

iank wrote:I watched about half the first series and gave up for precisely the reasons Liz stated. Quickly got very boring.

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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby The Krynoid Man » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:22 am

The first series was alright, but I gave up halfway through the second because it was so very, very bad.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby StarQuake » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:36 am

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StarQuake wrote:I seem to recall Phil Morris saying that Anthony Horowitz was poised to step into the Moff's Doctor Who shoes some time ago...

Yes, yes, yes!!!!!!

Seriously?

I would have said "obviously not", however apparently it was not obvious enough.

The Anthony Horowitz rumour was something being pushed by Phil as part of his vendetta against Steven Moffat last year, and it was embarrassingly ludicrous.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby J.R. Southall » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:59 pm

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LizR wrote:
StarQuake wrote:I seem to recall Phil Morris saying that Anthony Horowitz was poised to step into the Moff's Doctor Who shoes some time ago...

Yes, yes, yes!!!!!!

Seriously?

I would have said "obviously not", however apparently it was not obvious enough.

The Anthony Horowitz rumour was something being pushed by Phil as part of his vendetta against Steven Moffat last year, and it was embarrassingly ludicrous.


Although did he not actually get it from a Mirror journalist?
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby StarQuake » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:44 pm

I thought he got it from the Paul Nash sock.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby J.R. Southall » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:58 pm

StarQuake wrote:I thought he got it from the Paul Nash sock.


I don't know; I wasn't around when all this was happening. But someone told me the Paul Nash account was repeating something a Mirror (I think it was the Mirror) journalist had been saying.

If that's the case, you can see why the idea of Horowitz might have felt like it had a bit of traction; for what it's worth, I don't think it's the most outlandish rumour there's been. Davies and Moffat are big shoes to follow, and Horowitz has a lot of experience both in television and in children's fiction. The question is whether he'd do it, but I doubt the BBC wouldn't make a generous offer, and equally I doubt Horowitz really needs the money. So it wouldn't be beyond question. And with no one else in the frame for Doctor Who, in the way Moffat was back when Davies was in charge, it's easy to imagine the BBC looking outside the sandbox for a name big enough to take on what is more or less the BBC's highest profile series.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby StarQuake » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:32 pm

I think Paul Nash went with the info first. Certainly that's how I remember it being reported on the forums, though if someone could remember the time-frame I could begin trawling through the Omnirumour thread at the relevant date(s).

Whoever it was, I imagine the germ of the idea came from Horowitz having been tapped to write the script for Spielberg's Tintin sequel, where he would of course be filling the role Moffat held for the first movie. So in that sense he was replacing Moffat, just not in Who.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby shuzbot » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:01 am

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/02/ ... r-rumours/

Nothing to do with Paul Nash or the Mirror it was started by PM. According to the Tom Spillsbury email PM had been repeatedly complimentary to Moffat on Moffat's facebook page about the new series, so the idea that PM has wanted SM out all along seems to be very wrong. My guess is that his outburst at the time had more to do with the sacking of Caro Skinner. Need more female staff Steven? That is only a guess though.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby LizR » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:52 am

StarQuake wrote:The Anthony Horowitz rumour was something being pushed by Phil as part of his vendetta against Steven Moffat last year, and it was embarrassingly ludicrous.

It wouldn't be ludicrous as a proposition, because Horowitz is a damn good writer with huge experience of television work. I assume it was ludicrous for some other reason that I wasn't aware of.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby StarQuake » Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:39 am

LizR wrote:
StarQuake wrote:The Anthony Horowitz rumour was something being pushed by Phil as part of his vendetta against Steven Moffat last year, and it was embarrassingly ludicrous.

It wouldn't be ludicrous as a proposition, because Horowitz is a damn good writer with huge experience of television work. I assume it was ludicrous for some other reason that I wasn't aware of.

It was ludicrous because Steven Moffat was in full swing, a big success, and the BBC had no reason to sack him and replace him with Horowitz. Pretty much the same reason that J.R. has brought up for the current rumour, in fact.

I was not criticising Anthony Horowitz' writing ability - he's a great writer, and I've thought so ever since watching Robin of Sherwood.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby LizR » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:00 pm

StarQuake wrote:It was ludicrous because Steven Moffat was in full swing, a big success, and the BBC had no reason to sack him and replace him with Horowitz. Pretty much the same reason that J.R. has brought up for the current rumour, in fact.

That would be the reason I wasn't aware of, I guess - I didn't realise that there was a suggestion of sacking Moffat, etc. Damn I was obviously blinded by wishful thinking. You done stomped on my dreams.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby cyberlad » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:07 pm

Shame he's such a smug carrot strangler
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby The Krynoid Man » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:28 pm

cyberlad wrote:Shame he's such a smug carrot strangler


Who?
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby J.R. Southall » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:20 pm

The Krynoid man wrote:
cyberlad wrote:Shame he's such a smug carrot strangler


Who?


I presume he means Steven Moffat - who in my experience isn't remotely smug. He is, however and unlike Russell T Davies, rather quiet and unassuming rather than being a showman - and sometimes when people are in positions of power those qualities are easy to mistake for self-satisfaction.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby StarQuake » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:47 pm

LizR wrote:
StarQuake wrote:It was ludicrous because Steven Moffat was in full swing, a big success, and the BBC had no reason to sack him and replace him with Horowitz. Pretty much the same reason that J.R. has brought up for the current rumour, in fact.

That would be the reason I wasn't aware of, I guess - I didn't realise that there was a suggestion of sacking Moffat, etc. Damn I was obviously blinded by wishful thinking. You done stomped on my dreams.

I think he'd be better than any of the current writers of Who, but it looks to me like the powers that be probably promote from within the current writing pool when Moffat decides to move on. But who knows?
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby cyberlad » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:11 pm

Incorrect I was referring to Horowitz.
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Re: Private Eye claims "No full series of Doctor Who in 2016

Postby The Krynoid Man » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:23 pm

cyberlad wrote:Incorrect I was referring to Horowitz.


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