So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby cyberlad » Sat May 13, 2017 8:11 am

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The Nimon wrote:Joseph. The ratings for this season are up on season 9.


But not by much...

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It's gonna take a lot for Chibby Wibs to turn this around when he takes over...


Shifting the goalposts I see.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby -JMW- » Sat May 13, 2017 8:43 am

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-JMW- wrote:Unfortunately Joseph seems unable to envision what it would have been like in the lead up to the first "rejuvenation" - Apparently the first three years (twenty nine adventures, nine companions(?), one-hundred-and-thirty-odd episodes, fifty-odd hours of television) amounted to a mere blank slate. :lol:

Well, I can envision it because I was one of those viewers who watched Hartnell for (most of) those three years.

As far as I remember, I took it in my stride. Indeed, "Power" has been my all-time favourite Who story ever since, which wouldn't seem likely if I was traumatised by the rejuvenation.

Since the Doctor hadn't been in constant romantic entanglements with humans*, he was firmly established to be an alien, and so it didn't seem too "far out" (as we used to say in the swinging sixties).

*Apart from the odd cup of cocoa.

But you were a child!!!
Had you been an adult back then, the situation might be no different to how some balk at a change of gender now.

And that is the point of most of these "now vs. then" discussions....*We can't expect a show that we loved as children to have the same impact on us as adults. It's still a children's show at heart.

*other than basking in the nostalgic feeling we might have re-watching that which we took pleasure from back then.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby LizR » Sat May 13, 2017 9:03 am

Just telling it like it was - for me, at least. I'm not sure that adults would have baulked so much, because the show didn't have the huge amount of baggage it has now. But I know some adults did baulk, and there were letters to the Radio Times (the equivalent of a forum at the time) bemoaning the fact that the Doctor had been replaced by a hobo in badly fitting clothes.

Hopefully not going off at a tangent, but the show really needs the reboot that everyone has said they're going to do and then not done. The Time War was an attempt at that, but that fizzled. "Bring on those nightmares!" said RTD, and someone should. Maybe Chibbers can get it restarted afresh, though I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby James-S » Mon May 15, 2017 8:57 pm

Personally I'm still hoping Kris Marshall's got the gig who, combined with decent/capable writers, could actually restore Nu Who to something approaching it's former glory, at least with mainstream audiences....

And on the subject of decent writers, if the rumour's true that Chibbers intends to "drain the swamp" as it were of the current, largely inept gaggle - replacing them with his team from Broadchurch, then that's surely a step in the right direction!

On a more concerning note though, whilst I don't watch Broadchurch myself, I hear the show is very much one of diminishing returns - i.e. each subsequent series is generally regarded as inferior to it's predecessor....which on second thoughts perhaps might not bode well for 'Who after all....

Either way we'll see. 8-)
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby iank » Mon May 15, 2017 10:12 pm

I don't watch it either, but from what I understand series 3 was considered a return to form after a disappointing season 2.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Servorobot » Mon May 15, 2017 10:27 pm

Kris Marshall is the greatest actor in the world.

He's so fantastic he should be Pope and World President.

He's that bloody good.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby James-S » Mon May 15, 2017 11:24 pm

Servorobot wrote:Kris Marshall is the greatest actor in the world.

He's so fantastic he should be Pope and World President.

He's that bloody good.


....have you been drinking Servo?

Would certainly explain a great deal, both in this instance and indeed generally...

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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby shuzbot » Mon May 15, 2017 11:32 pm

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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Bowtiesarecool » Mon May 15, 2017 11:48 pm

Servorobot wrote:Kris Marshall is the greatest actor in the world.

He's so fantastic he should be Pope and World President.

He's that bloody good.


He gets my vote. 8-)
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby LizR » Tue May 16, 2017 12:50 am

An elderly judge wrote:"So who is this Kris Marshall?"
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Servorobot » Tue May 16, 2017 8:23 am

James-S wrote:
Servorobot wrote:Kris Marshall is the greatest actor in the world.

He's so fantastic he should be Pope and World President.

He's that bloody good.


....have you been drinking Servo?

Would certainly explain a great deal, both in this instance and indeed generally...

:D


Nah, it was the thought of Kris Marshall being the Doctor that basically made me take temporary leave of my senses.

I don't have my granola with vodka, yet! :D
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby iank » Tue May 16, 2017 9:18 am

The Mirror's been reiterating the line about it being Phoebe whatsherface from Broadchurch.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Servorobot » Tue May 16, 2017 9:29 am

iank wrote:The Mirror's been reiterating the line about it being Phoebe whatsherface from Broadchurch.


Olivia Colman, or the woman from Fleabag?
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby iank » Tue May 16, 2017 9:40 am

Phoebe Waller-Bridge, I think. She was a journo in Broadchurch.
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby LizR » Tue May 16, 2017 9:44 am

Servorobot wrote:I don't have my granola with vodka, yet! :D

What? Doesn't everybody? :shock:
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby James-S » Tue May 16, 2017 1:29 pm

iank wrote:Phoebe Waller-Bridge, I think. She was a journo in Broadchurch.


Oh jeez, really?

Well, she's at least a better proposition than Neil Gaiman's nightmare of a choice: Sue Perkins!

I still remain resolutely unconvinced that Gaiman's recommendation was made in sincerity or indeed whilst moderately sober tbh....

In fact just the merest prospect of a perma-smug, terminally unlikable Perkins (< she'd essentially be playing herself in other words) righteously battling hordes of suddenly misogynistic, universally white (naturally ;) ) cosmic villains as the Doctor and defeating them with endless, mildly misandrist 'quips' is enough to send a shiver down the spine of anyone cursed with both high expectations and exacting standards (and that most definitely is a curse when watching Nu Who these days!).....

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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby ericthehalfabee » Tue May 16, 2017 2:33 pm

iank wrote:The Mirror's been reiterating the line about it being Phoebe whatsherface from Broadchurch.


The Scottish copper could be quite good?
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Sid Rat » Tue May 16, 2017 11:04 pm

ericthehalfabee wrote:
iank wrote:The Mirror's been reiterating the line about it being Phoebe whatsherface from Broadchurch.


The Scottish copper could be quite good?


Yeah, and the vicar would make a decent companion.

Bowtiesarecool wrote:
Servorobot wrote:Kris Marshall is the greatest actor in the world.

He's so fantastic he should be Pope and World President.

He's that bloody good.


He gets my vote. 8-)

He could be the 'strong and stable' hero standing up 'for the many, not the few' against a universal 'coalition of chaos'!
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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby LizR » Wed May 17, 2017 11:51 am

Sid Rat wrote:He could be the 'strong and stable' hero standing up 'for the many, not the few' against a universal 'coalition of chaos'!

Indeed.

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Re: So, The 13th Doctor Then.

Postby Bowtiesarecool » Wed May 17, 2017 9:11 pm

LizR wrote:
Sid Rat wrote:He could be the 'strong and stable' hero standing up 'for the many, not the few' against a universal 'coalition of chaos'!

Indeed.

Make the universe great again!


Build! That! Death Star! :director:

Oh wait, wrong franchise. :oops:
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