Deadwood (2004)

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Started watching Deadwood recently. Ian McShane just steals the whole show. :D

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Anyone else here watch this?
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Is that the one with the inappropriate swearing?
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LizR wrote:Is that the one with the inappropriate swearing?
You mean there is only one TV with inappropriate swearing? What is appropriate swearing anyway? And yes, there are lots of f*cks and c*cksuckers all over the place.
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shuzbot wrote:
LizR wrote:Is that the one with the inappropriate swearing?
You mean there is only one TV with inappropriate swearing?
Perhaps not, but see below. This programme has particularly inappropriate swearing, as I will reveal shortly :D
shuzbot wrote:What is appropriate swearing anyway?
Something that someone would actually be likely to say in the given context.
shuzbot wrote:And yes, there are lots of f*cks and c*cksuckers all over the place.
Which weren't swear words that were used in that historical period. Hence they're inappropriate :geek:
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LizR wrote:
shuzbot wrote:And yes, there are lots of f*cks and c*cksuckers all over the place.
Which weren't swear words that were used in that historical period. Hence they're inappropriate :geek:
Thanks, I was wondering about that.
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From its debut, Deadwood drew attention for its extensive profanity. It is a deliberate anachronism on the part of the creator with a twofold intent. Milch explained in several interviews that the characters were originally intended to use period slang and swear words. Such words, however, were based heavily on the time's deep religious roots and tended to be more blasphemous than scatological. Instead of being shockingly crude (in keeping with the tone of a frontier mining camp), the results sounded downright comical. As Geoffrey Nunberg put it "… if you put words like 'goldarn' into the mouths of the characters on 'Deadwood', they'd all wind up sounding like Yosemite Sam."[12]

Instead, it was decided that the show would use current profanity in order for the words to have the same impact on modern audiences as the blasphemous ones did back in the 1870s.

The word "f*ck" is said 43 times in the first hour of the show. It has been reported that the series had a total count of 2,980 "f*cks" and an average of 1.56 utterances of "f*ck" per minute of footage


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood_(TV_series)#Use_of_profanity

I just thought it would be interesting to note why they use modern swear words
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/deadwood- ... ?r=US&IR=T

Just found that as well, Deadwood film in the works.
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shuzbot wrote:http://uk.businessinsider.com/deadwood- ... ?r=US&IR=T

Just found that as well, Deadwood film in the works.
Yay!!! Now fingers crossed they don't "Sex and the City" it...
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shuzbot wrote:I just thought it would be interesting to note why they use modern swear words
Sure, I wasn't saying it was bad, merely inappropriate. Unfortunately it makes it harder, not easier, for me at least to suspend my disbelief.
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LizR wrote:
shuzbot wrote:I just thought it would be interesting to note why they use modern swear words
Sure, I wasn't saying it was bad, merely inappropriate. Unfortunately it makes it harder, not easier, for me at least to suspend my disbelief.
Oh, I know :) and I kind of agree, although, I would say it was more jarring in a repetitive way. Even if they just break up the duopoly of profanities.
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Well, I was disappointed with Bill's death because I wanted to see more of that character and his demise wasn't all that spectacular. The brother and sister were great characters but I wasn't disappointed with their Mayfly lifespan because they had such a brutal, bloody death. You get to see the thug beneath the suit of Cy Tolliver. When he is up against his equal Al Swearengen everything is much more tactical so it was a nice change of pace.
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shuzbot wrote:Well, I was disappointed with Bill's death because I wanted to see more of that character and his demise wasn't all that spectacular. The brother and sister were great characters but I wasn't disappointed with their Mayfly lifespan because they had such a brutal, bloody death. You get to see the thug beneath the suit of Cy Tolliver. When he is up against his equal Al Swearengen everything is much more tactical so it was a nice change of pace.
I wouldn't have minded seeing a bit more of Bill, but his death was really well executed IMO [i]because[/i] it was so inglorious, almost a surrender. [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Wild-Bill-Buffalo-Bill.jpg[/img]
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I knew he was a real person but wasn't sure how historically faithful this was. :)
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You might like these, then?
Seth Bullock
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Ellis Albert "Al" Swearengen
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Martha "Calamity" Jane Cannary
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"Colorado" Charlie Utter (right)
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Brilliant, thank you :D
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You're welcome! I love this sort of stuff. :)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Swearengen

I see they changed McShanes character to being English :o
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Guess he couldn't nail the accent? Still, he's wonderful in the role!
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This is one of the best TV shows I have watched. So rich and entertaining from start to finish. I was absolutely gutted when it stopped. :cry:

But is it Who canon?

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Blimey, Eric Cantona's not related by any chance. :lol:
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