Tom Baker - The Complete First Season S12 Blu-ray

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It's not a hoax. It's happening.

I wonder if they're planning on doing any of the monochrome stuff?
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Somebody on GB pointed out that the Red Dwarf series 1-5 are coming out on Bluray next year: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Dwarf-1-BD- ... rf+blu+ray

The Beeb never miss an opportunity to get new money for old rope, eh?
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shuzbot wrote:Somebody on GB pointed out that the Red Dwarf series 1-5 are coming out on Bluray next year: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Dwarf-1-BD- ... rf+blu+ray

The Beeb never miss an opportunity to get new money for old rope, eh?
Blimey. DW and Red Dwarf. Seems like a policy thing to bang out these old recordings on BR then... Fawlty Towers next!?

Quite promising for archive telly fans, and dare I say it... fans of missing TV.
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shuzbot wrote:Somebody on GB pointed out that the Red Dwarf series 1-5 are coming out on Bluray next year: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Dwarf-1-BD- ... rf+blu+ray

The Beeb never miss an opportunity to get new money for old rope, eh?
red dwarf has been coming to blu ray for the last 2 years (i put em on my amazon watchlist in the middle of last year when they were supposed to be releastearly 2017) i have a feeling come feb 2018 they will be heavily delayed again :)
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ericthehalfabee wrote:
shuzbot wrote:Somebody on GB pointed out that the Red Dwarf series 1-5 are coming out on Bluray next year: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Dwarf-1-BD- ... rf+blu+ray

The Beeb never miss an opportunity to get new money for old rope, eh?
Blimey. DW and Red Dwarf. Seems like a policy thing to bang out these old recordings on BR then... Fawlty Towers next!?

Quite promising for archive telly fans, and dare I say it... fans of missing TV.

I would LOVE Fawlty Towers to come out on BluRay.
Most of the original film insterts still exist (they were re-telecined for the remastered DVDs) they'd look fabulous on BluRay. And the studio videotape will also look much better too when it's not munged up by MPEG2 compression artefacts. Whole thing for £20 quid, what's not to like?
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ericthehalfabee wrote:It's not a hoax. It's happening.
It's almost as if I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG :lol:
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Interesting re RD - Naylor killed it back in September but the Beeb have thrown more £££ at it and it's now back on.

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But - but - but - I thought physical media was dead and no one wanted it anymore!
JMW said so, so it must be true!

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iank wrote:But - but - but - I thought physical media was dead and no one wanted it anymore!
JMW said so, so it must be true!

:D
As the mainstream it's certainly dying out in favour of streamed/downloadable content.

I expect niche markets to flourish for a while longer, offering, as they do, overpriced product to those who can afford it.

At some point the concatenated studios (I'm expecting Sony's entertainment division to be sold off in the same way as Fox was recently) will see the granting of licenses to third parties as a threat to their online offerings and cause a cessation to it. Physical media will likely become a burn & print while-you-wait service derived from the downloadable product (possibly altered to a more resilient credit card type media).

Will the Tom Baker set (if/when it arrives) change any of that? Nope.
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-JMW- wrote:
iank wrote:But - but - but - I thought physical media was dead and no one wanted it anymore!
JMW said so, so it must be true!

:D
As the mainstream it's certainly dying out in favour of streamed/downloadable content.

I expect niche markets to flourish for a while longer, offering, as they do, overpriced product to those who can afford it.

At some point the concatenated studios (I'm expecting Sony's entertainment division to be sold off in the same way as Fox was recently) will see the granting of licenses to third parties as a threat to their online offerings and cause a cessation to it. Physical media will likely become a burn & print while-you-wait service derived from the downloadable product (possibly altered to a more resilient credit card type media).

Will the Tom Baker set (if/when it arrives) change any of that? Nope.
Completely agree, nail on the head.
Case in point - Twice Upon A Time £12.99 On Blu Ray our in a few weeks but £3.98 on iTunes complete with extras out now.
I still buy physical media when it is cost effective but as long as I can view or listen I don’t care about the format. Not bought a physical Big Finish release for a few years.
As JMW said there it’s becoming more niche - I only bought s10 and Shada as I like the Steelbook editions and Twin Pesks S3 as it is not available on streaming.
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I would agree that physical media is becoming more and more niche.

Personally speaking, I would always prefer physical over digital. Space-saving, and often cost aside, physical media affords superior PQ/AQ, and more often than not, digital doesn't come with extras. Plus there's always that underlying fear that digital content could disappear at the drop of a hat.

The decline in physical media is down to multiple factors - the advent of digital being just one of them. The other key consideration is that people don't really want to be buying the same content over and over again. That being the case, the jump from VHS to DVD was huge. Lots of people who upgraded their collections from VHS to DVD likely drew the line there, especially as the jump from DVD to BD was less revolutionary. There will be more people who will likely draw the line at BD and not bother upgrading further, and then again, the same with 4K. Once you have movies in a format that allows for presentation no worse than they would have been seen on the big screen originally, there really isn't much point to buying it again. We've now reached that point with both movies and television, and with the advantages of digital competing as well, future physical sales are in serious jeopardy in the medium to long term.

Fortunately, if physical disappeared tomorrow, I'd survive. I've upgraded most things that I'd want to. I don't plan on buying most of these things again now, physical or digital.
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You lot should confirm, but I also believe that a DVD played on a Blu-Ray player can give better results than a vanilla DVD player on its own, or is this purely due to the upscaling to make it work on a modern flat-screen TV?
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DSJR wrote:You lot should confirm, but I also believe that a DVD played on a Blu-Ray player can give better results than a vanilla DVD player on its own, or is this purely due to the upscaling to make it work on a modern flat-screen TV?
Yeah, it's a software technique to artificially convert standard def video to high def (a la Blu-Ray or UHD4K) primarily so that it will appear less pixilated on a larger screen. It can't add detail that is not present though, so a native HD video is far superior...but it's the next best thing.

The Doctor Who McGann Blu-Ray, and the series 1 to 4 Blu-Rays have had a similar job done on them, albeit by those in the industry working specifically to that product rather than a generic piece of kit in your player.

Naturally the quality of upscaling results are dependant on the player.

Here's a page with an example and explanation.
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CouncilSpectre wrote:I would agree that physical media is becoming more and more niche.

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I don't simply because you can now go into HMV and buy vinyls and players.

If records can make a come back in this digital age then there is plenty of life in Physical media yet.
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Cinema was definitely going to kill radio. And TV was definitely going to kill cinema.
And ebooks were definitely going to kill real books.

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mr borusa wrote:
CouncilSpectre wrote:I would agree that physical media is becoming more and more niche.

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I don't simply because you can now go into HMV and buy vinyls and players.

If records can make a come back in this digital age then there is plenty of life in Physical media yet.
Vinyl is a "collectors" format and simple to produce - one can even press a vinyl disc on an individual basis. But even then it's hardly the mainstream product it once was - You have to pay a fortune for a "new" vinyl pressing. Digital media is a disposable format and expensive to produce in smaller quantities because the production process is not straight forward. That is the difference.

Laserdiscs? Gone
Minidiscs? Gone
8-Track? Gone
I don't see audio cassettes (though still made in smaller quantities) and VHS making a big comeback either.
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iank wrote:Cinema was definitely going to kill radio. And TV was definitely going to kill cinema.
And ebooks were definitely going to kill real books.

:floorroll: :floorroll: :floorroll:
e-books have decimated the retail market in paper-based media. Several magazine firms and book sellers have gone out of business in the last decade because of this. DWM will be lucky to last another couple of years in printed form.

I don't know about "cinema killing radio" or "television killing cinema". Markets move on though and we are in unprecedented times with digital media being so very easy to copy and share with zero loss in fidelity, and a culture of immediacy that Netflix in particular seem to have grasped. The online market (both "legitimate" and unsanctioned are decimating the physical media industry and it's all undergoing the biggest overhaul it's had in at least a half century.
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I've edited out some sass. Stop needling each other, ta.

This thread's about the upcoming bluray of Tom Baker's first season. Not "Is physical media dying?" which has a somewhat relevant thread here:

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Just started watching series 12 at the moment on my classic who marathon (sontatan experiment is on as i type this :) ) and the dvds look fine on my 50 inch LED telly upscaled by my blu ray player so i cant see what benefit blu ray upgrades will bring unless there is a decent amount of new VAM included
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