paulhickling wrote:The new Daleks aren't from Cusick. They're Ed Thomas's designs I'd have thought. What a parting gift! But I have felt, since seeing the piece on The Chase dvd, that Ed may have taken Ray's rivet comments to heart. But surely taking the rivets off didn't have to mean redesigning them, especially to look big, fat and clumsy? He obviously didn't read the bit from the earlier quote about being SLEEK.
A friend was at an event recently where Mark Gatiss claimed "don't blame me for the new Daleks, they weren't my idea". Maybe the progenitor was only supposed to create a massive new army, and Moffat saw a chance to change them. What a shame they spent the money on a few truly awful props, instead of a bit of cgi to create thousands.
I can forgive RTD very easily for eschewing the fictional technological backwards step logically speaking, in favour of something visually impressive. His Daleks do look like tanks, metallic and heavy duty. Doesn't RTD have a background in design? This could explain him not rubber stamping rubbish while Moff can't see the problem.
The Cybermen likewise, while less fluidly mobile they look for once actually made of metal. Of course the excuse there was also probably that the new ones were the product of early 21st technology albeit on an alternate Earth. Again though, that last point does at least show a desire on RTD's part to address the issue. A throwaway line true, but addressed just the same.
Mind you, RTD did give us the red Supreme, which simply sported naff looking apendages spoiling the proper look. Otherwise, though red, it still looked metallic and in that respect more credible than the new 'blimps'. Once again though that too smacked of BBC interference regarding Christmas toys.
The new Daleks would have been designed by Ed Thomas and as you say, what a parting gift!
I can see what RTD was trying to do with his original Dalek re-design, he wanted to make them sleeker and sturdier than the classic series ones, and he suceeded in that in my opinion. I never had a problem with the rivets and the tank-look as the Dalek machine was intended to be a travel/war machine right from the start so it's not a radical move away from what Ray Cusick originally envisaged. The new Daleks are a radical departure and not in a good way. I agree that RTD had a better eye for design than Moffat seems to have, personally I think RTD wouldn't have approved the new design in the first place for obvious reasons. Interesting that even Mark Gatiss acknowledges how unhappy most fans are with them, as a fan he's probably not particularly happy with them himself, and as a writer he's probably irritated that his story was eclipsed by the row about them. I blame the BBC, it's obvious they wanted new Daleks to sell more toys and artistically it backfired. It's bad news for Moffat as well because his first year in charge will be remembered more for the design mistakes than the stories.
Today, the Kaled race is ended, consumed in a fire of war, but, from it's ashes will rise a new race. The supreme creature. The ultimate conqueror of the universe - the Dalek!